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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby doodoobird on Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:19 am

Well, in case you have not noticed, the Average American IS an idiot. I am not exactly proud of that fact, but it is a fact. Thats why the media has been such an effective tool this campaign. And we all know who their rooting for. The idiots sit back, eat their daily dose of shit, ask for seconds, then flip the channel to see who is gonna get booted from their favorite reality show. But anyway, lets get back to big government. Here I go with that dirty word again, SOCIALISM. If you know your history, demo my lad, you know the Democrats and their idea of big government can trace its roots back to American socialism, back when it was a new and interesting thing, before it really became the dirty word (and it IS a dirty word) it is today. And if you refuse to believe that then at the very least you cant deny that 'big government' at its essence has many similarities to socialism, at its essence. And maybe your a socialist, or maybe you see some good in socialism, AMERICA is NOT, and should NEVER be, a socialist state. It is not the American way. Yes, America is a beast that has evolved into something greater then the founding fathers could ever envision. The light of the world, some would say. But how did we reach this status? By what we stand for, thats how. The freaking individual. Capitalism. Individual freedoms, only until recently spreading to the dark corners of our world. Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. Indeed. But not so the system can punish the successful so your hand can be held at the expense of the whole. No. So you can CARVE YOUR OWN PATH. So you can TAKE your piece of the pie. Its their for you, if you, the individual, has the guts to take it. That is the America I know and love. Where yes, even a black, Arab terrorist can TAKE whats his and CARVE HIS OWN PATH to the throne. Obama could have been just another black guy in a white mans world, right? But NO, he took what he saw as his. He carved his own damn path without the system holding his hand. This is what I am saying and all that am saying. America is about the individual. Always has been. And God willing, always will.

As a side note: Big government has a place in our beloved country. Desperate times call for desperate measures. I will be the first to admit that our system based on the individual is not a perfect one. Sometimes you need to adjust fire. When shit gets screwed up to a certain point, the system should step in to correct the problem as a temporary solution, until its back on its feet again. Now is that time. But governments role should be limited to fine tuning. More oversight, like a concerned parent guiding their child to get on the right path. NOT FORCING THEM DOWN THAT PATH. Guiding.

And as a side side note. Your comment about Obama being an Arab terrorist sure tells me a lot of nothing. You gotta come at me better then that, demo. YOUR better then that Demo. Frankly, am a little let down. But an E for effort, my friend. E for effort. HAAAAA!!!!!!!
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:11 am

You have your opinion and i can have mine...but the fact of the matter is that things are going to change.so, its time to learn to deal with. it ..We the people might mean something again over the next 4 years or longer.
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:15 am

and you want me to come with you with something...ok...CHANGE.
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:23 am

and back to the subject at hand........Palin fucked this campain up for your guy.....
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:34 am

Here is one thing that i was taught as a child....help out your fellow man.

call it what u want..but i believe that when i go to vote ill be doing just that by voting for Obama..
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:15 am

but lets go back to ur previous statement...the 12%...now, to be fair about this...that is quite a hike..and ill be waiting with my arms folded to see what happens with this term in the first place..i still wanted clinton in the mix..but, we deal with what we have...McCain..just blew it with me when he went with Palin..damn i want to slap whoever convinced him on this person...anyway,. Im hopeing for the best..and thats what im doing..im going with who will benefit the whole and myself and that package is Obama..not everything i agree on...the 12% is a big chunk in all reality...and im under the impresseion that he was going to go easy on the companies that are staying in the united states...at least earier..anyway, very good arguments DDB..on your part,...nothing to take away..we just see somethings from different sides of the bar..anyway,..when i get into a higher tax bracket and feell the crunch.i may change this birds tune..anyway, its late and i still have AMERICAN DAD TO WATCH..peace and alll that hippie shit.
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby doodoobird on Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:58 am

You see, I made it clear in previous statements that as soon as we have a winner, then I'll throw my support behind him. Though, I will be a lot more enthusiastic if MY GUY wins, I will still support Obama because he deserves ALL our support. But the election IS NOT over, my friend. I have been saying that Obama is going to win sense i've been on this board. Only once, shortly after the republican convention, did I once say that McCain had a CHANCE, just a chance. Regardless, I also understand that the he can still win. It shows a lot of arrogance on the part of the Obama campaign (and his cult) to act like they are going to inherit the presidency. The presidency is something you earn, not inherit. He has not earned it yet even if he has always acted like he would get it (new presidential seal anyone?). Arrogance. But anyway, I will support him ONCE he wins. You can expect the rhetoric coming from my end to slow down once we have a new president. It wont ever go away, but IT WILL slow down a bit. And as for the helping your fellow man, to me, it comes off as a holier then thou comment. Nothing wrong with helping your fellow man. But their IS a great deal wrong with becoming your fellow mans crutch. I dont know about you Demo, but I spent much of my days in the Bronx. Let me tell you a little story: While my family struggled to put food on the table I saw others living comfortably off the system. Both my parents had two jobs. Most of those living comfortably didnt even have one. Yet, the welfare paid for their meals, their rent, put cloths on their back, and yet for most of them it still wasnt enough. Life would have been sooooo much better for my family if my paps would suck up the pride and get on the system. It was a temptation when you see these people abusing it. I saw welfare for what it was. A CRUTCH. Abusing the system was a way of life over there. In all fairness, if my family got on the welfare we would have been one of those familys who really needed it to help us get by, not so we can put up our feet and take the day off. But where would be today if we got use to the idea of the government doing the heavy lifting for us. Well, hard work and pride got us out of the ghetto. We took the hard road and boy did it pay off. I bet you most of those familys who were on the system still live right there in the ghetto, no need to take that big leap out. Shit, no need to take that first fucking step. Not when you got a crutch. And for Sara Palin, she may have or may not have been the right pick. But I do know that media got scared when they saw the initial enthusiasm over her that rivaled Obamas. And I know what I saw. A system that systimatically destroyed her. Its as clear as day. I will never trust the mainstream media ever again. Not after the way they covered this election. I guess the prospect of the most liberal president in history was too much of a temptation to keep their biased beliefs at bay, hidden. And the 12% thing was just an example. Nothing more. Dont read too much into it.
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby doodoobird on Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:14 pm

I smell something in the air............ you guys smell it............. smells familiar...................... like I've smelled this before....... I GOT IT.......... Its the smell of bullshit.
First off, I honestly dont say this with pride: Boy are you Obama supporters gonna be let down if Obama becomes president. He has promised the world. Or to at least to change the world. Universal health care. End the war in Iraq within 18 months. A new approach to foreign policy that will revolutionize our relations, even rouge states who's governments sponser death to America rallies on a daily basis. Hmmmmmmmm, what else what else? Oh yeah, how can I forget. A redistribution of wealth that will reignite the middle class. I could go on. But you see, something happened recently that throws a wrench in most of those plans. Who knows, maybe Obama would have delivered the goods. But not know. Why? Because something really really bad happened recently. The same thing that practically sealed the deal (remember, it aint over yet) that he would become the next president is the same thing that in my opinion will destroy the man the myth the legend that is Barak Hussein Obama. Its called the economy, STUPID!!!!!!!!!!! You see, as we say in the military, Obama now has to seriously ADJUST FIRE. In the last few weeks, if anyone has noticed, he has become somewhat of a realist. At least in a potential first term, Obama is going to have to play some serious defense just in hopes of getting things back on its feet. Just as his success can be attributed to being the right man at the right time, his downfall, will be attributed to being the wrong guy at the wrong time. He simply (and I do feel some sympathy here, its really not his fault) wont be able to spend like he would like. There goes health care for the masses. There goes all those nifty social programs that are in the planning stages. Iraq. He will end the war (or the war as we know it. Believe me you, troops will be there for a long time to come) a lot faster then McCain. But he has said recently that we may have to update our plans for an Iraq withdrawel. He will be smarter with getting out of Iraq. If the situation was the same as when he first jumped on the political horse, then yeah, he would get the hell out of there as fast as possible, I mean, moreon.org aint paying him for nothing, right??? He faces a situation there now where he does not want to be seen as the guy that got the hell out as fast as we could only so that place can go back to a civil war. He knows that will be just dumb. So, he will actually listen to the commanders, to a certain extent. I predict a near complete pullout of combat troops from Iraq in an Obama presidency by the end of his first term. Maybe 3 years. I am telling you people, there is gonna be a lot of dissapointment in an Obama presidency. A lot. And much of it is not his fault. The economic situation has changed everything. Some of it IS his fault. Promised wayyyyyy tooooo much. But I hope it works out for him, I really really do.


By the way, I hear you say often Demo, that the McCain of 2008 is not the McCain of 2000. If you have been following Mr. Obama then you know that the Obama today is not the Obama, pre-primary victory. Two very different men. I honestly like the new one. Less radical. More moderate.
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:13 pm

say often...about McCain 2000, i think that ive said that at most twice..and about ur comments about the economy has caused obama to adjust this plans....welll yeah..i would think so. And about Palin, it wasnt the media that caused her downfall..it was Palin that caused her own downfall...yeah, the media has been for Obama( statistically)..but man, SHE GAVE THE MEDIA THE AMMUNITION...If she would have been prepared and if McCain would have meet her more than ONCE....and maybe, just maybe he wouljd have had a thought about choosing Palin...
Yes there are people that take advantage of the welfare system..it doesnt matter who is in office..thats just the way it goes..Whats worse is the BIG COMPANIES USING LOOPHOLES TO HIDE WEALTH.....and cheat on taxes..
Now, talk about earning the presidency..how about BUSH..he sure as helll didnt earn it.....
Oh and that smel/hear SWEET AIR OF CHANGE..saying goodby republicans..you cant steal this election.......
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby doodoobird on Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:02 pm

yes Bush did earn it, after he won it. All am saying is that Obama did not earn it YET. If he wins, then yeah, he earned it. So that Bush comparison really does not apply. I cant even give you an E for effort on that one. Lets not even talk about the 2000 election because thats a dead horse that has been beat one too many times. And besides, the man was able to win it again four years later by a good margin. And I think your McCain comment has been said more then twice but who the hell is counting??? Like, every time you explain why your not big on McCain anymore. You might be right with Palin. I still think that the media has been unfair with her. A women who on paper has more experience to be president then Obama. And about the welfare, I think you would be surprised HOW MANY people take advantage of it. Have you ever lived on a block where practically every person was on welfare??? Scary. The great American crutch. Big companies using Loopholes to hide wealth should be punished. But we at least can agree its a bad thing, as opposed to those who would like to throw welfare families more bones. Lets put a f'ing pool in their back yards too!!!! And a power shift will happen again before you know it. By the way, are you a democrat Demo?? Not sure, but I can swear in the past you mentioned something about being somewhat of an idependent?? Or a bandwagon rider? God am an ass. But at least my ass dont smell like bullshit.
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby demorganakamark on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:52 pm

I dont needed to have an E for nothing..bush didnt earn his right to be president..he didnt deserve shit..and who is counting..well, let me guess..you are for bringing it up.,and im sure that ive heard Ayers more than you have heard about mccain in 2000.....i havent made any remarks directly towards you DDB...tread that water carefully..
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Re: Is Palin ready.

Postby doodoobird on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:33 am

Again, E for effort. Bush didnt earn his right to be president??? legally, he won two elections. Thats enough to earn it in this nation. And a free ride from the media is earning it? And the McCain thing was said enough from you for me to remember it, I could give two sh*ts about counting it, honestly. And how is Ayers related to this??? Am just confused on that one. CONTEXT??? Maybe the point is to make me confused but for some reason I highly doubt it. Anyway, my comments are simply a reaction to you suggesting that I needed to get over something and saying you smell change in the air, well, I dont believe you to be that naive so I'll take it as a form of ballbusting. No remarks directly at you either, my man. Just observations. And that 'ass smelling like bullshit' is directed toward what may soon become (but hopefully not) broken dreams and hearts. And I dont tread water. I call them how I see them and I hope you can do the same. My feelings wont be hurt, trust me. Your a good guy, Demo. When I attack I attack your opinions, not you. You'll be alright, E is a passing grade.
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